The following is an edited radio interview between Saul Molobi and Itskwena (real name Kwena Mokgokong) broadcast on 101.9 Chai FM on Sunday, 25 February 2024…

Saul Molobi: Thank you for joining us tonight on 1010.9 as we embark on a three-hour journey of deconstructing jazz music. I’m Saul Molobi, and I’m truly appreciative of your company thus far. Joining me in the studio is the talented Itskwena, known by her stage name but warmly welcomed by her real name, Kwena Mokgokong.

Itskwena: Thank you for having me. It’s a pleasure to be here.

Saul Molobi: Your vibrant energy is palpable, Itskwena. In my culture, laughter is often seen as a reflection of sociability, and there are even anecdotes about dimples symbolising warmth and friendliness. Tonight, as we celebrate love through the tunes of Sunset Essie, I’m eager to turn the spotlight on you. Can you tell our listeners a bit about yourself and who Itskwena is?

Itskwena: Certainly. I’m a creator hailing from Pretoria, South Africa. My journey in the arts spans various forms of expression, from music to painting and writing. I see myself as an experimenter in the creative space, constantly exploring different avenues to convey my thoughts and feelings.

Saul Molobi: Your background in accounting is quite intriguing. How did you navigate the transition from the world of finance to the realm of creativity?

Itskwena: It may seem like an unlikely transition, but I find that both the worlds of finance and creativity offer unique forms of stimulation. The structured nature of finance challenges me to think logically and solve problems, while the creative space allows me the freedom to express myself authentically. These two aspects of my life complement each other, providing balance and diversity in my endeavours.

Saul Molobi: Your perspective on embracing imperfection in the creative process is quite refreshing. Can you elaborate on how this philosophy influences your work?

Itskwena: Certainly. In my creative process, I strive for beauty rather than perfection. I believe that imperfections add depth and character to art, reflecting the richness and complexity of human experience. Life is full of challenges and uncertainties, and my aim is to find beauty in every moment, whether it’s through inspiring melodies, thought-provoking lyrics, or captivating visuals.

Saul Molobi: Your lyrics often draw from personal experiences and observations. How do you balance traditional themes with contemporary perspectives in your music?

Itskwena: My approach to songwriting is deeply rooted in my cultural heritage and identity as an African artist. I draw inspiration from traditional themes and narratives, weaving them seamlessly into contemporary contexts. By preserving native languages and celebrating African perspectives, I strive to create music that resonates with audiences across generations and backgrounds.

Saul Molobi: Your songs “Maru” and “Kefilwe” carry powerful messages. What inspired these tracks, and what do you hope listeners take away from them?

Itskwena: “Maru” and “Kefilwe” are both reflections on the state of South Africa and the continent at large. They speak to the struggles, aspirations, and potential of our people, urging listeners to find beauty in adversity and use their gifts to enact positive change. Through these songs, I hope to inspire hope, resilience, and a sense of collective empowerment among listeners.

Saul Molobi: Your music represents a dynamic evolution of jazz, blending traditional elements with contemporary sensibilities. What message would you like to convey to our listeners, particularly the emerging generation of artists?

Itskwena: To my fellow artists and listeners alike, I would encourage you to embrace your unique gifts and talents wholeheartedly. Whether you’re a seasoned veteran or a budding talent, never underestimate the power of your creativity to effect change and inspire others. Let’s continue to push the boundaries of expression and innovation, ensuring that jazz and our cultural heritage remain vibrant and relevant for generations to come.

Saul Molobi: That’s a powerful message, Itskwena. Before we wrap up, could you share with our listeners where they can find more of your work and connect with you?

Itskwena: Absolutely. You can explore my music and other creative projects on my website or connect with me on social media platforms such as YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, and TikTok under the handle “Itskwena” by clicking on these links.

Saul Molobi: Thank you, Itskwena, for sharing your insights and talent with us tonight. We’re eagerly looking forward to experiencing more of your music and creative endeavours.

Itskwena: Thank you for having me.